tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8071607692933192813.post4435986557783227617..comments2023-08-13T05:26:06.112-04:00Comments on Vinegar and Honey: This Just StinksUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8071607692933192813.post-45550652653885167442007-10-16T03:05:00.000-04:002007-10-16T03:05:00.000-04:00granny j, I understand what you are saying, and as...granny j, I understand what you are saying, and as repulsive as it is to think of eating food grown from human waste, the real fear, for me, is the very thing that you mentioned.<BR/><BR/>If we beome sick and diseased from the antibiotics, etc., injected into, or ingested by cattle, how much worse will it be if, indeed, the chemicals ingested by humans is not broken down by the treatments?<BR/><BR/>I realize that it is an inevitability that we all must face, but it does not make it more palatable.Janhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16083702120097667613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8071607692933192813.post-35068755853277893962007-10-16T01:40:00.000-04:002007-10-16T01:40:00.000-04:00So I am going to be the dissident here... thanks t...So I am going to be the dissident here... thanks to cultural conditioning, we find the use of human waste distasteful. But it can be perfectly safe if it is treated so as to kill all the micro-organisms, which means high heat. Currently the problem might be chemical contamination, specifically the drugs that pass through our systems which are not broken down by the heat treatment. But then we also have similar drugs showing up from our cattle. Living long-term in space, on the moon or Mars will require the recycling (a fancy word) of human waste.Granny Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07302978680897139954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8071607692933192813.post-79344910278811347882007-10-15T00:19:00.000-04:002007-10-15T00:19:00.000-04:00" and I just don't want my food grown in human was..." and I just don't want my food grown in human waste."<BR/><BR/>rockync..I hear you!Janhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16083702120097667613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8071607692933192813.post-20808235396169994382007-10-14T22:38:00.000-04:002007-10-14T22:38:00.000-04:00I'm with you, Jan. Cow manure is one thing, they e...I'm with you, Jan. Cow manure is one thing, they eat grass but people put all manner of things in their bodies and I just don't want my food grown in human waste.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8071607692933192813.post-12208309918055733332007-10-14T22:21:00.000-04:002007-10-14T22:21:00.000-04:00rockync..I was really surprised to learn that they...rockync..I was really surprised to learn that they were actually shipping the treated waste to farmers for use on their crops.<BR/><BR/>No matter how much it is treated, I just don't see how it could possibly be totally safe.Janhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16083702120097667613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8071607692933192813.post-23184148814078488932007-10-14T21:22:00.000-04:002007-10-14T21:22:00.000-04:00This is why I won't buy foods from South America b...This is why I won't buy foods from South America because I saw an article about them using human waste as fertilizer.<BR/>Several problems here besides the stink and the idea of human waste.<BR/>Who is going to ensure that the waste is properly and sufficiently processed to eliminate contamination such as communicable diseases?<BR/>If it stinks, it can't possibly be processed enough. Ever buy a bag of cow manure? It has been processed and dried until it has little or no smell.<BR/>If we are going to start farming like third world countries, why bother? We can get produce a lot cheaper from them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8071607692933192813.post-42207182155814308552007-10-13T22:48:00.000-04:002007-10-13T22:48:00.000-04:00Sue..you're allowed to rant here, anytime!Yep, the...Sue..you're allowed to rant here, anytime!<BR/><BR/>Yep, there are a lot of hypocrites around, from every walk of life.<BR/><BR/>I can't even imagine how awful it would be, living right next to one of those farms, having to smell it, and breathe it in!Janhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16083702120097667613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8071607692933192813.post-60589572835246590312007-10-13T22:39:00.000-04:002007-10-13T22:39:00.000-04:00This isn't just happening in NY, Jan. Here in Iowa...This isn't just happening in NY, Jan. Here in Iowa, just a ways down the road, we have a farmer who has always been touted in publications as being such a great guy and so environmentally friendly because he uses "sustainable agriculture". This is supposed to mean he uses no chemicals or fertilizer on his crops except what his farm produces - he has cattle, and he rotates crops and he has a whole song and dance he does. Unfortunately, his whole argument is a sham. Farmers would love to be able to cash flow "sustainable ag practices" but the fact is, unless you are a very small farmer and are growing your own veggies, have your own cows for milk, chickens for eggs and meat, etc., it isn't possible. <BR/><BR/>This guy has had magazine articles written about him and he's made the newspaper several times. The facts are, he gets seed GIVEN to him, he inherited his land and equipment (so no cost there) he gives tours of his farm and CHARGES for these tours, and, yes, the reason for this post... he gets sludge from the neighboring town which he uses on his crops. My daughter lived next door to one of his fields and in the summer when he'd put it on she could barely breath... it is 10x worse than any odor I've ever smelled from a large hog lot or cattle lot. It is horrid. Yet? He gets away with it.<BR/><BR/>Okay, rant over.<BR/><BR/>Sorry to be so long, but you hit a nerve here (can't you tell?)suehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17087761009975204727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8071607692933192813.post-36750897984581805642007-10-13T18:09:00.000-04:002007-10-13T18:09:00.000-04:00Hermit..my husband told me about those "honey wago...Hermit..my husband told me about those "honey wagons" in Europe, and how horrible the stench, as they sprayed it on the crops.<BR/><BR/>I can't understand how anyone could think that the fertilizer from New York is harmless, and free of disease, no matter how many times it is treated.<BR/><BR/>"You are what you eat," sounds really yucky now!Janhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16083702120097667613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8071607692933192813.post-81885324982952762282007-10-13T18:01:00.000-04:002007-10-13T18:01:00.000-04:00Vin..I wash everything so thoroughly, that there's...Vin..I wash everything so thoroughly, that there's hardly anything left, already! I can't even imagine eating any veggies grown with that stuff!<BR/><BR/>About the airport..comes down to the same old thing. When does honoring your civil rights violate mine, and what can be done about it, really?Janhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16083702120097667613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8071607692933192813.post-90090438031876209772007-10-13T17:38:00.000-04:002007-10-13T17:38:00.000-04:00I don't want any part of food grown with the conte...I don't want any part of food grown with the contents of the "honey bucket." I remember the horrific stench of the rice paddies in korea, where the kids go out every morning and ladel "night soil" on the plants from a bucket. I couldn't live within 100 miles of that. Wouldn't want to get any disease that way, either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8071607692933192813.post-72320988238424536402007-10-13T03:27:00.000-04:002007-10-13T03:27:00.000-04:00Ok, you got me on this one, I haven't a clue. I re...Ok, you got me on this one, I haven't a clue. I remember being told the rice paddies in SE Asia were fertilized with human feces and much of it was shipped to the US, but I think I also read that human waste as fertilizer has been known to cause disease, so wash your veggies before eating them.<BR/><BR/>As far as encroaching neighbors, we have a similar problem in So Cal where suburbs have crowded around airports and are now complaining about the noise.<BR/><BR/>The battle has been going on for many years.<BR/><BR/>The residents claim they have a right to noise abatement and the airport says if they don't like the noise they shouldn't have moved next door to an airport...Rio Vista Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00874243711162984051noreply@blogger.com